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Wednesday, July 27, 2011

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Topic: ෴ සංස්ඛාර ලෝකය ෴



  • බුදුන් වහන්සේ සංස්ඛාර ලෝකය කෙසෙල් කඳකට උපමා කල සේක. කෙසෙල් කඳ පතුරු ගැසුව ද එහි හරයක් නැත.
    සංස්ඛාර ලෝකය තුල හරයක් ඇතයි සිතාගෙන ලෝකයේ ජීවත්වන එක් කොටසක් ඇලීම් සහ ගැටීම් සහිතව සංස්ඛාර ලෝකය තුල ජීවත් වෙති. සංස්ඛාර ලෝකයේ හරයක් නැති බව අවබෝධ කරගත් තවත් කොටසක් තම අවබෝධය තුලින් ලෝකයට ඇති ඇලීම් සහ ගැටීම් වලින් නිදහස් වීමට තම චින්තනය මෙහෙයවති. එමගින් යම් සැනසීමක් ලබති. නමුත් මෙම ක‍්‍රියා පටිපාටි දෙකම ද්විත්වයට අසුවන අන්ත වෙති. බුදුන් වහන්සේගේ ධර්මය අන්ත වලින් තොර ය. සංස්ඛාර ධර්ම තුල හරයක් ඇතයි පිළිගැනීම එක් අන්තයකි, හරයක් නැතයි පිළිගැනීම තුලින් ලබන අවබෝධය අනෙක් අන්තයයි. මෙම අන්ත දෙකටම අසුවන පුද්ගලයා සසර සැරිසරන්නේ ය.
    යම් කෙනෙක් සංස්ඛාර ලෝකය හරයක් නැතිබව සියළු ඉන්ද‍්‍රියන් ඉක්මවා දකී ද ඔහු හෝ ඇය සසරින් නිදහස් වන්නේ ය. සංස්ඛාර ලෝකය හරයක් නැති බව දුටු ප‍්‍රඥාවන්තයෝ ඇලීම් ගැටීම් සහිත ලෝකය තුල ඇලීම් සහ ගැටීම් සහිතව ම ජීවත් වෙති. ඇලීම් සහ ගැටීම් රහිතව ලෝකයේ ජීවත්විය නොහැකි ය. යමෙක් ලෝකයට ඇති ඇලීම් හා ගැටීම් වලින් නිදහස් වීමට උත්සාහ කරන්නේ එම සංස්ඛාර ලෝකය පිළිගත් බැවිනි. මෙම පිළිගැනීම එම සංස්ඛාර ලෝකයෙන් නිදහස් වීමට බාදාවකි. යමෙක් මෙම ලෝකය මායාවක් බව දකී නම්, එම දකින ප‍්‍රමාණයට ආයාසයකින් තොරවම ලෝකයට ඇති ඇලීම් සහ ගැටීම් වලින් තමන් නිදහස් වෙයි. ඒ හැර ලෝකයට ඇති ඇලීමෙන් නිදහස් වීමට තම චින්තනය මෙහෙය වන්නට අවශ්‍ය නැත. ලෝකය යනු චින්තනයේම මායාවක් බැවින්, හරයක් නැති ලෝකයෙන් ගැලවීමට චින්තනය මෙහෙය වන විට සත්වයෝ නැවත ධර්ම උගුලට අසුවෙති.

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  • "සංස්ඛාර ලෝකය හරයක් නැති බව දුටු ප‍්‍රඥාවන්තයෝ ඇලීම් ගැටීම් සහිත ලෝකය තුල ඇලීම් සහ ගැටීම් සහිතව ම ජීවත් වෙති. ඇලීම් සහ ගැටීම් රහිතව ලෝකයේ ජීවත්විය නොහැකි ය."

    This is going to tell us more about the liberation brought about by the new teaching. That is, "vision" is nothing but just a fantasy; it even can't stop our mental sufferings in this life let alone eradicating the rebirth.

    සංස්ඛාර ලෝකයේ හරයක් නැති බව අවබෝධ කරගත් තවත් කොටසක් තම අවබෝධය තුලින් ලෝකයට ඇති ඇලීම් සහ ගැටීම් වලින් නිදහස් වීමට තම චින්තනය මෙහෙයවති.

    This is, once again, a wrongful criticism on Vidharshana meditation without knowing about it. Vidharshana meditation does work to penetrate the deception of mental formations and thoughts. Unfortunately, Dr Senanayake misinterprets the teaching of Vidharshana over and over again just to show that only his new dhamma says that thoughts are deceitful. But it is already there in Theravada Buddhism the way to penetrate the deception of thinking or thoughts. No need to believe me or Dr. Senanyake; anyone may go to real buddhist master like Ajahn Chah and can learn this. But if somebody just gets misleaded by Dr Senanayake's misinterpretations, that's a shame!

    යමෙක් මෙම ලෝකය මායාවක් බව දකී නම්, එම දකින ප‍්‍රමාණයට ආයාසයකින් තොරවම ලෝකයට ඇති ඇලීම් සහ ගැටීම් වලින් තමන් නිදහස් වෙයි. ඒ හැර ලෝකයට ඇති ඇලීමෙන් නිදහස් වීමට තම චින්තනය මෙහෙය වන්නට අවශ්‍ය නැත.

    But he just said that සංස්ඛාර ලෝකය හරයක් නැති බව දුටු ප‍්‍රඥාවන්තයෝ ඇලීම් ගැටීම් සහිත ලෝකය තුල ඇලීම් සහ ගැටීම් සහිතව ම ජීවත් වෙති.I think he is confused by himself! That's why I call this is just a fantasy created by very thinking process. Lord Buddha had said that are people who would mistake that they are enlightened, but in fact, they have nothing but fantasies.

    In traditional teaching it says, the enlightened one does not seek to live in a world without sufferings. But he is able to live in the ordinary world without being mentally suffered since he no more has thanha to create "ඇලීම් ගැටීම්". 
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  • In the first stage of the vision (Sovan), there are desires and hatreds in full. That is why I say; “සංස්ඛාර ලෝකය හරයක් නැති බව දුටු පරlo ඥාවන්තයෝ ඇලීම් ගැටීම් සහිත ලෝකය තුල ඇලීම් සහ ගැටීම් සහිතව ම ජීවත් වෙති”

    But you can see these desires and hatreds arise from the wrong knowledge. When you can see more and more, your desires and hatreds will be eliminated gradually. It will happen by seeing but not by any effort.
    That is why I say “යමෙක් මෙම ලෝකය මායාවක් බව දකී නම්, එම දකින පර b මාණයට ආයාසයකින් තොරවම ලෝකයට ඇති ඇලීම් සහ ගැටීම් වලින් තමන් නිදහස් වෙයි.”

    Some one who is in the path or fruit of the vision, he/she enjoys his/her life. He works, plays games, and wears casual dresses; talk loudly with friends, dances with girlfriend in the parties etc… and the mean time listens to the Dhamma in weekend. Yes, the life is fantasy. You know why? No death in the vision. 
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  • The Buddha’s word ‘Dukka’ is not the meaning of the suffering. ‘Dukka mean accepting the Dhamma. You can eliminate the ‘Dukka’ once you give up the knowledge.

    REMEMBER!!!!!! Here give up mean not an ‘action’. Enjoy life without ‘Dukka’. Yes, it is fantasy.
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  • If 'Dukka' does not refer to unsatisfaction or suffering, then for what Lord Buddha have found a path for liberation. Without having pointed to the nature of unsatisfaction and sufferings of Sansaara, what are we going to do with all these?
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  • Buddha went to jungle to see any path to get rid of ජාති ජරා ව්යා දී සහ මරණ. He new that Dukka arise from the ජාති ජරා ව්යා දී සහ මරණ.

    People are suffering of Sansara, because they accept the Sansara. The Sansara is 'acceping the time'. If there is no time, there is no Sansara.
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  • ‘Dukka mean accepting the Dhamma.

    He (k)new that Dukka arise from the ජාති ජරා ව්යා දී සහ මරණ. Here you mean suffering, aren't you?

    Are these the same or different things?

    From these explainations, it's apparent that you say something and mean a different thing.

    I think you are trying to make your statments vague meaning so that you can twist the meanings in the way you want later on!
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  • Sorry I miss the (k). yes , he knew….. N o, Dukka means here not the suffering. You know why? ජාති ජරා ව්යා දී සහ මරණ are our acceptance. We have accepted ජාති ජරා ව්යා දී සහ මරණ. There are no any ජාති ජරා ව්යා දී සහ මරණ in the universe.
    Are these the same or different things?

    These are not the things. All are created by the time. These are in a circle.

    you say "I think you are trying to make your statments vague meaning so that you can twist the meanings in the way you want later on! "

    You are right. The words ‘I use to explain something’ are accurate only for the certain stage.

    Look at the these two Q&A’s
    Q: Does God exist? A: No.
    Q: Doesn’t God exist? A: No. 
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  • කෙනෙක් කරන පුණ්‍ය කර්ම වල විපාකයක් විදිහට දිව්‍ය ලොක වල උපදිනවා කියලා බුදුරජාණන් වහන්සේ දේශනා කරලා තියෙනවා. ඒ වගේම පාප කර්ම වල විපාක විදිහට නිරයේ ගිහින් උපදිනවා කියලත් දේශනා කරලා තියෙනවා. එහෙම තියෙද්දී ඔහෙලා කියනවා දෙවියො ඉන්නෙත් නෑ නැත්තෙත් නෑ කියලා. ඔහෙලා කරන්නේ හුදෙක් වාද කිරීමක් පමණයි. ඔහෙලාට සිද්ධ වෙනවා දෙවියන්, බ්‍රහ්මයන්, නිරිසතුන් ආදී සත්ත්වයින් සිටින බව පිළිගන්න. එහෙම නොවුනොත් ඔබලා නියත මිථ්‍යා දෘෂ්ටිකයන් බවට පත් වෙනවා. නියත මිථ්‍යා දෘෂ්ටිකයාට මරණින් මතු උපත් දෙකයි තියෙන්නේ. එක්කො තිරිසන් යොනිය, නැත්තන් නිරය. ඔබ කෙරෙහි අනුකම්පාවෙන් මේ කියන්නේ. ඔය ඔබේ මාන්නය නිසයි ඔහොම මතයකට ඇවිත් ඉන්නේ. තමාගේ යහපත කැමති නම් අප්‍රමාදීව බුදුරජාණන් වහන්සේ ගැන පැහැදීම ඇති කරගන්න. ඒ උතුම් ධර්මය ගැන පැහැදීම ඇතිකරගන්න, ඒ ආර්ය මහා සoඝ රත්නය ගැන පැහැදීම ඇතිකරගන්න.
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  • මරණින් මතු උපතක් ඇත්තේ ඔබ වැනි අයටය. මට මරණයක් නැත. මරණයක් නැති මට උපතක් ඇති ඔබ සිතනවද?
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  • "මට මරණයක් නැත. මරණයක් නැති මට උපතක් ඇති ඔබ සිතනවද?"

    Sorry I don't understand. How come you aren't going to die?
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  • I am not going to die. I killed my death.
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  • How did you kill your death? Are you breathing now?
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  • To : Tissa Mahima
    මරණයෙන් නිදහස් වූවො කම් සැප විදින්නො නොවෙති. බඹසර ජීවිතය සම්පූර්ණ කල ඇත්තොය. ඔවුහු කාමයන්ගෙන් සදහටම මිදුනොය. ඔවුහු බුදුරජුන්ටම ගෞරව කරන්නොය. ශ්‍රී සද්ධර්මයටම ගෞරව කරන්නොය. ඔබේ ක්‍රියා කලාපය එසේ නොවේ නේද......? ඇයි තවත් මුලා වෙන්නේ......? දැන්වත් තේරුම් ගන්න ඔබ මරණයෙන් නිදහස් නැති බව.
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  • I killed my death not my life. I am still breathing.
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  • To Deshan ඔබ කියන්නේ යමෙක් කියන ලද ඔබ පිළිගත් දෙයක්නේ. මම මරණය නැහැ කියල කියන්නේ, ඒක ඉන්ද්‍රියන් ඉක්මවා දැකපු නිසා. ඉන්ද්‍රියන් වලින් ගන්නා තොරතුරු නිවැරදි නොවෙයි. පුලුවන්නම් කියන්න ඉන්ද්‍රියන් වලින් ග්‍රහණය කර ගත් සත්‍ය දෙයක්. මම අභියෝග කරනවා ඔබට බැහැ කියල.
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  • "I killed my death not my life. I am still breathing."

    So I asked you, "how did you kill your death?"

    By the way, now you are breathing, right? So, doesn't a day come where your heart fails to pump blood? Or a day where you stop breathing? What happens after that? What happens if you inject hydrogen peroxide or Sodium into your blood? (Please don't try it)
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  • To : Tissa Mahima
    ඔබ මරණයෙන් නිදහස් වී නැත කියන එක මම මගේ ඉන්ද්‍රියන් තුලින් දුටු පරම සත්‍යක්. ඔබ ගෞතම බුදුරජුන් කෙරෙහි කිසිම ගෞරවයක් නැති කෙනෙක් කියන එක මම මගේ ඉන්ද්‍රියන් තුලින් දුටු පරම සත්‍යක්. ඔන්න 2ක්ම කිව්වා.
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  • TO Deshan: ඉන්ද්‍රියන් තුලින් පරම සත්‍ය දකින්නට නොහැකිය. ඉන්ද්‍රියන් තුලින් ග්‍රහණය කරන්නේ අනුන් කියන දෙයක් නොවේද? ඔබට අනුන් කියන දේ ගැන විස්වාශයක් තබා ඒවා පිළිගනී. අනුන්ගෙන් අසා මරණය ද පිළිගත්තේය. ඉතින් මේ පිළිගැනීම තුල මරණ ය මිස සත්‍ය තිබේද ?
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  • I'm asking again.

    "Doesn't a day come where your heart fails to pump blood? Or a day where you stop breathing? Or a moment when the main artery get a blood clot stuck and a sudden cardiac failure? What happens after that? What happens if you inject hydrogen peroxide or Sodium into your blood?"
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  • Where is the blood? It is in your knowledge.
    Where is breathing? It is in your knowledge.
    Where is the blood clot? It is in your knowledge.
    Where is the cardiac failure? It is in your knowledge.
    Once you accept the wrong knowledge, you arise question; What happens if you inject hydrogen peroxide or Sodium into your blood?".
    If some one attains the Nirvana Who has no body and blood to inject hydrogen peroxide. 
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  • "Where is the blood? It is in your knowledge."

    But aren't we having a human body? Can we sustain without breathing?
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  • the knowledgible people say " we cannot sustain without breathing.
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  • "the knowledgible people say " we cannot sustain without breathing."

    But you said that you're still breathing, what is the reason for your breathing ? If you stop breathing ?
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  • very good discussion.I don't say Dr.Tissa has overcome the death.But after I met him and through discussions with him I started to see through me and fighting to kill death I don't have time see others killing death when I do that death try to kill me.So I don't waste my time seeing others.Even accepting some one doesn't solve the question.

    If there is a bomb in your room what will you do.Are you trying to find it's country of origin or weight or try to get out of the the room as soon as you can.Even a child know the Answer for that kind of physical question.

    Unfortunatelly in our question our mind doesn't accept that.It searches for it's detail rather than releasing it.since it don't no how to do that it search for book data and procedures and finally accept it.

    it's like a virus.Now wrong knowledge controlls you.As far as the existancy of data (knowledge)virus will survive.You better format it.
    finally Neither data no wrong knowledge.
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  • it's better take time & see "what hell is this" instead of fighting......

    by the way this is impressive comment Dilupa......
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  • The death, breathing etc are accepted knowledge. You cannot overcome death by fighting to kill death. We have to apply ‘the cause and effect' process. What is the reason for the death? You think birth is the reason for the death. That is why many monks etc think there is no birth after death once you attain the nirvana. It is wrong. The cause of the death is accepted knowledge. I have explained this in my “king Kakille”. Unfortunately many people cannot see it. I have no any kind of accepted knowledge mean no death. but I use my knowledge for day to day works.

    All the words in your mind is polluted by the words (virus). once you clean up you hard disc you may not find any virus (word). Clean it.
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  • What is the reason for birth, according what you have mentioned ?
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  • Clean it. how? Apply the Ogha tharana sutra.
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  • I mean, why I was born to this world ?
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    • just a comment - as I understood not answering to that question straight forward by Dr.Thissa, if so it'll straightly go to our knowledge. so then we may know why what is happaning to so called "I".
      but what we should do is "SEE" it by our self. to get answer for your question Chamath we should do the Ogha Tharana........ (though I used word "Should do" it shouldn't be a act)

      Dr. Thissa pls correct me if I'm wrong. Coz I also had the same question. 
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    • Well, why would I started my Sansara then ? Wasn't it unfair for me ? I mean, isn't nothingness better ?
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    • Dr. Tissa, I think you're mentioning that knowledge is the cause for problems ?

      I have a small question, why am I existing now ? Why am I typing in Facebook now ? So typing in Facebook is also knowledge, right ? So, why shouldn't I be in nothingness ? Why did it all start ? When did knowledge start first ? Where is the start came from nothingness ? If knowledge wasn't there initially, what resulted for the availability of knowledge ? If nothingness was there beyond the time, we wouldn't be needing to discuss all of these matters to attain Nirvana, but unfortunately, nothingness just seem to be not there, so, is accepting existence is knowledge ? When we reject existence, we aren't going to attain Nirvana, are we ?

      Think about animals, I don't think they are getting knowledge like us, but they are in Sansara ?
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    • On one way I can say the reason for the birth is 'Avidya". But birth and death are our knowledge. You say “I have born”. But the small child does not say “I have born”.
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    • What is the reason for Avidya ?
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    • And also what is the reason, for the reason of Avidya ? When you keep answering, what is the root cause ?
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    • And why does root cause exist ?
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    • "But the small child does not say “I have born”."

      I agree with you that small babies don't say that they are born, perhaps they aren't mature enough to understand, isn't it ?

      If so, what would happen, if we do not let babies to become adults ? If we kill babies, so, according to your statement "knowledge is the cause for Dukka", they would eliminate Dukka ?
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    • They would eliminate Dukka only temporary. He/she is born again because of the Avidya. he/she will accept birth and death again. then arise the Dukka.
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    • So, do small babies have Avidya ?
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    • Now I don;t understand how Avid ya remains within a newborn, since Dr Senanayake once had said a newborn does not have Dukka / knowledge. That means birth and death is created by something else other than by the knowladge?
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    • The Avidya is in the deep sleep (it is inside (mind) presses). The sansara is continued by the avidya. The birth and death is in the knowledge. I said in my comment; we have born because of avidya. But here born is accepted knowledge.

      The birth and death are accepted knowledge, but sansara is continued by the avidya. Can you see the different?
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    • What is the reason for Avidya ?
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    • No I am utterly confused!

      You once said there is nothing (knowledge) in deep sleep. What is Avidya? Is it something not related to knowledge?

      Can't we kill Sansara just in the same way that you have killed your death?
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    • Hi team ,From last comment I just wanted tell Dr.Tiss is special one and to see him you better see you .Dr.tissa is right we can't fight but we can't stay without fight(the word fight is taken from this discussion it is better to remove the word fight, now on wards). one must see the answer and answer will not be a word or explanation.
      I think I also gave the idea wrong way thanks for correcting me Dr.Tissa even I was correct that won't make me any sense since I still haven't over come the birth and death. for the moment I better silent.
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    • Avidya!!! don't worry. Avidya is mind process. Once you killed your death, avidya is disappeared in arahanth palaya. Have you herd ten patters? Avidya is last one.
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    • Dulip Please don’t be silent. Yes, you right if you have accepted knowledge you have thinking. Then you have to fight with words. You cannot stop. Once you try to stop your words, it is an effort. The efforts never give you nirvana. You need not to fight with words, but you can fight with me.
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    • Thanks sir
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    • So, do small babies have Avidya ? yes,

      You can see the Avidya in arahanth palaya, but cannot explain it. we need not to worry about avidya.
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    • If Avidya is the / a reason for birth, if Avidya never existed, then birth shouldn't have existed ?

      So, Why did Avidya came into existence that resulted for birth ? Or, if I ask in another way, what is the reason for the existence for Avidya ? I mean, simply, what is the reason for Avidya ?

      "Avidya!!! don't worry. Avidya is mind process."

      So then my question is, what is the reason for mind process ? If mind process never existed, no birth ?
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    • When you have said:

      "........People are suffering of Sansara, because they accept the Sansara. Te Sansara is 'acceping the time'. If there is no time, there is no Sansara........The “I” (self-view) is not the problem. The problem is the KNOWLEDGE..............This is the problem with knowledge. The knowledge is enough to live in the world, but the knowledge is not enough to get rid of the jathi jara viyadi marana. You know why? The jathi jara viyadi marana are in your knowledge...............All the knowledge (Dhamma) is path to the death (Anushotha gami margaya). The path to nirvana is ‘get rid of knowledge’ (patishtha gami margaya)............... Then what is the reason for existence? because once you see the truth you also see that time matter and distance give us jathi jara viyadi and marana. The knowledge give you time. the time give you deat............"

      I am sure if your statements are correct, when there is no knowledge there cannot be "jathi jara marana" that is in other words, no sansara.


      "Avidya!!! don't worry. Avidya is mind process. Once you killed your death, avidya is disappeared in arahanth palaya."

      Now when you say a there is a mind process "Avidya" that is responsible for one's birth, I don't get how getting rid of knowledge can be useful to stop rebirth.

      Can you please explain how the process of cutting through the fetters after one getting rid of knowledge. I mean how long it could take, what decides the length of time it takes before one before killing all ten fetters. If I get rid of my know knoledge does it gurrantee that I get at least into 'Sovan' .

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    • Every ordinary people are living under the ‘Mulava’ (delusion- but pl don’t take word delusion). Our mulava is accepting the knowledge. You are away from the Mulava, when you come to sovan palely. But still you are with ‘avidya’ . I know you are puzzled with “how getting rid of knowledge can be useful to stop rebirth.

      I can give you short answer; No more death in the sovan palaya. Then how can we say about rebirth if there is no death? It is hard to explain the process in side the mind. One you come to the ‘Anagami palaya’ you can see it.

      Instead of ‘some one getting rid of knowledge, I would like to say “some one getting rid of accepted knowledge” enlighten one also use the knowledge but does not accept.
      Please can you do Google search to find the ‘ten fetters’? We need not to worry about the time, coz all the ferrets are eliminated without effort. You cannot do it under the time frame. Also you cannot go beyond the knowledge with any effort too.

      Yes if you get rid of you accepted knowledge (Sakkaya distti ) definitely you are in Sovan Palaya. 
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    • Guys did you visit www.universalfact.org.
      There is lot more Dr.tissa audio files and many more.I think it will help to your journey
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    • ".....I know you are puzzled with “how getting rid of knowledge can be useful to stop rebirth. I can give you short answer; No more death in the sovan palaya. Then how can we say about rebirth if there is no death? It is hard to explain the process in side the mind. One you come to the ‘Anagami palaya’ you can see it....."

      Would you say that "getting rid of accepted knowledge" is a 'necessary and sufficient' condition of the mind in order to cut through ten fetters without any efforts ?
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    • yes of course "getting rid of accepted knowledge" is a necessary and sufficient. others are not our job. The "getting rid of accepted knowledge" also not the our job but always people try to do something for that. it is ok, but one day you will free from the accepted knowldge without effort. if you like pl listen my sermon 'Three kings in your mind'
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    • Then can we make a newborn to attain Nirvana just by isolating him from everything exept for feeding?
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    • "Then can we make a newborn to attain Nirvana just by isolating him from everything exept for feeding?"

      I think Dr. Tissa said previously that isolating a person from childhood would prevent from (attachments?). So it means he could attach Nirvana easily ?

      Then Lord Buddha should have told all the parents to isolate their babies to attain Nirvana, but I don't think that Lord Buddha said it. He advised the parents to (teach children?)

      Also what about animals ? Do they have knowledge ? But they are in Sansara ?
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    • Get rid of attachment and nirvana are mainly different. Nirvana is truth. We need to know the untruth before find the truth. Otherwise how can we find truth? First people need to gain the knowledge. Second they realize (not see) the knowledge is untruth. Once some one come to middle path he/she will see (beyond the senses) truth. Can you see now? Without knowledge, nobody can see the truth.

      Yes, Animals have no knowledge. But they are under the avidya. But Animals have no suffering coz suffering is come from the knowledge. Yes they are in Sansara. 
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    • This sounds like being born in animal relm is better than to be born as a human ! because as Dr Senanayake says, animals do not have suffering.
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    • Yes, if a human does not see the truth, animal realm is better than human… . Human can see the truth but Animals cannot see the truth. Human needs to see the truth coz human have suffering. Animal need not to see truth coz they have no suffering.
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      • Ha ha....this is hilarious, you are condemning humanity just to cover up the flaws of your teaching.

        People are suffering that's true yet it is not that animals don't have sufferings but they can't tell you that they are suffering. They have fear of death while they are on death row in the butchery. They look and act the very same way like human when they know that learn they are to die.

        If they were not to feel suffering of death, Lord Buddha would not have said that animals should be hurt because they do fear of death. (I am sure today onward you will start saying that Buddha never asked “not to kill animals”)

        You, by saying animal don’t have suffering, fall even behind the western materialism, which now gradually leaning that animals also have thoughts and souls.

        You are really sillier than I first thought!
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      • Hey, wait a minute. Now you are accepting that your way of attaining nirvana also requires the knowledge that “knowledge is untruth”. But you have been consistently condemning Vidharshana as not effective for attaining Nirvana just because it involves “knowledge of Anithya Dukka Anathma”.

        This is the same story again. You contradict yourself by your effort to fabricate your false “knowledge based Nirvana”. That is why I once said you are in a fantasy. Here fantasy is not something to enjoy, as you did last time, it means crazy or bizarre mental image.

        I have nothing personal against you. I am now 100 % sure that you have not achieved any state of enlightenment (Sovan) what so ever.

        Either you are pretending that you have achieved something. Or in the worst case, you have got a mental illusion created by yourself. I hope it’s not the latter case, because it has pretty bad consequences that are hard to treat. But it’s quite obvious that you have lack of self-judgment to see how childish your fiction of “killing knowledge to attain Nirvana”.

        Since you have defined a new set of attributes to states of enlightenment, you would sometimes not know that you were in a fantasy until your death. There had been some monks who mistook to have enlightened even in contemporary times of Buddha. Unfortunately, you don’t have that chance of learning from a master, who you can trust.

        I will try to continue participating in this facebook forum just to minimize the damage you do to the community by misleading them with this inconsistent, false notion. 
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      • In my notes, suffering means ‘Dukka’, but not the meaning from dictionary. The animals have no jathi jara viyadi and marana. Then they have no Dukka. They are not polluted by the knowledge and time.

        I am not saying that Buddha never asked “not to kill animals” or kill the animals. I know animals have no suffering but I do not even kill the mosquitoes. I am not eating animal flesh too. But I do not tell you “don’t robber the fleshes that belong to animals. 
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      • Yes, we requires the knowledge to see the “knowledge is untruth”. That is why Buddha says Dhamma is like ‘Pahura’. You cannot cross the river without ‘puhura’. You remember I told you “keep your Dhamma back side (පස්චාත් භාගයේ) of you to see the nirvana. Once you do vipassana meditation, if you can put your meditation in your back side, definitely you can see the nirvana.

        I never say that you can see the truth without knowledge.

        I think you know that the name of my book is ‘ධර්ම පහුර හිස තබාගෙන මෝහ ගඟ තරණය කරන්නෝ’. 
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      • You once wrote " Dukka is NOT suffering but dukka is accepting knowledge"

        Now you say "In my notes, suffering means ‘Dukka’, but not the meaning from dictionary. "

        I don't know what to say.......!
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      • Dear manjula don't try to protect any one .How many human lives can you protect by death and misleading by the society.You have created your self and external world now you are protecting things inbetween those until your death after that who will protect them it's simple when there is "I" there is world When there no "I" no world.Try find your self rather than protecting others.I know you are empowered with your decission did you ever saw who is behind it.Good luck.
        Stop going after word by word.A meaning can be just explain by a picture rather than thousands of word.so i think we better see the truth rather going after word by word.It's a cycle you will never find your answers even you die. Better see that cycle seing is not going after word by word.I don't want to upset you but from my experiance better see once own self.
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      • Thanks Dilupa, I am still in a stage of investigating and trying out things. Because there have been lots of different interpretations and schools of practices, I am trying to be open minded. That's how I became interested to know what Dr Senanyake has got to teach.

        Now I am sure he is teaching a mere interlectual flow of thoughts, which is not the reality. So I thought I should share it with him and others, so that it can be beneficial to everybody.

        If somebody just start learnng this new interpretation as the absolute truth, I would like to contribute to show him/her that there are some reasons to look beyond this and investigate before accepting anything.

        I would apologize to anybody if I have hurt his/her feelings by challenging his/her faith. On the other hand, it can be good training itself. Even Buddha himself faced such situations.

        Finally, I agree to your point that importance of focusing on myself rather than fixing other's problems. Thanks for your kindness again.
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      • "I agree to your point that importance of focusing on myself rather than fixing other's problems."

        Well, if we could fix problems of others, we are helping them, right ?
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      • You are right we better challage Dr.Tissa.
        For my pont of view if I say this way,
        we have this world -which is "false"
        we know Nirwana-which is "absolute truth(correct)"
        so now what we are trying todo is we use falsecondition to explain absolute truth.You , I ,Even Dr.tissa has to take false to describe truth.That we are all stuck.then there is a trick or skill which will be handy.you are in false and must transmit to absolute truth.answer must find yourself and not by word. it must be seen.
        Pls visit http://www.universalfact.org/Dr.tissa/index.html there you will get effort audio.see what you can get out of it.
        For Chamath
        When there is "I" there is others
        When you don't see "I " withing you there is nor others.If you want help others taht's why we must see our self first.
        It's the cycle in us untill our death.We know we do our self for more than others but when we fail there then we go to others and when false then again come to our self
        there is no end it's a never ending loop and is a trap beaware of it
        pls listen to doctrene twice or thrise but don't force your mind you may reject or may accept there is no difference you or I still haven't seen the truth.Difference come only we see it.pls continue your explore,and I appolagise If I break you .It's green light from me pls go on.But pls take your questions from your journey not from books then it will help all
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      • Manjuila say "Now you say "In my notes, suffering means ‘Dukka’, but not the meaning from dictionary. " I don't know what to say.......!"

        The meaning of suffering not the give entire meaning of the Dukka. The Dukka is accepted knowledge. but the word 'suffering' is not give that meaning.

        Thanks for everybody. According to my view you all are doing great job to reveal the truth. I have revealed more Dhamma with discuss with you. As example I have revealed the Dhamma in ‘King kosol’ by discuss with Chamath. Next day, we (with Dilupa and his mum) discuss these dhamma through the Skype and reveal more. We cannot reveal any Dhamma without augmentable discussion. I have revealed the Dhamma in my audio sermon “effort’ by discussion with FB. Otherwise ‘Buddha’ (here no title) has no anything to teach or preach.

        Buddha never says “accept the truth.” Accepting truth is useless. Please note that my words have different meaning different places. I agree with all Dilupa’s comments 100%. Dilupa say “A meaning can be just explain by a picture rather than thousands of word.” . See the amazing comments of Dilupa. It is worth than million of words. The Picture is one of best way of the revealing the truth.
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      • Lord Buddha has not left a space in his Dhamma to be filled by you Dr.Thissa.Its complete.What you have to do is to understand Dhamma as it is and follow to free from Samsara but dont try to change Dhamma.
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      • Can you find anyone who attain at least the Sovan margaya (no need to Sovan palaya) in your Gothma Buddha Sasana?
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      • Yes, there have been many monks in the world who practiced Vidharshana and achieved the untimate peace of mind. They live a very content life. The true masters were not openly labeling themselve to be Arahath or something because of Vinaya rules. One example is Ajahn Chah in Thailand who died in 1992 but there are many more even in Sri Lanka. It's true that we can't find such monks in an ordinaray village temple because those monks never put Buddha's teaching into practice.

        Dr Senanayake is trying to use that defficiency of village monks to prove that the the traditional teaching is not effective. But unfortunately they have not even met a true master who could have shown them to how to practice.

        Instead what Dr Senanayake and his group have been doing is that they make a strage theory of "killing accepted knowledge" to eliminate death. Dr Senanayake once wrote that he has killed his death because no death in the vision and he can enjoy the world because there is no death in his vision. This is just a set of words which has nothing to do with the reality of the world. Even with the help of some drugs, one could have temporary gone a mental state where he thinks there is no death. But one thing is for sure both Dr Senanyake and druggist both will die.
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      • "Ajahn Chah in Thailand who died in 1992"
        "Dr Senanayake once wrote that he has killed his death because no death in the vision"

        This is the different between the Ajahn Chah Dhamma and Buddha Dhamma. You know some have to do effort more than SARA SANKALPA LAKSAYAK before see the vision.
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      • You don't seem to have an answer except that just to say something seemingly vague but zero in meaning.

        Here "Ajahn Chah in Thailand who died in 1992"
        equals to "Ajahn Chah's body stopped its physical functions"

        Your body will also certainly do the same within next 60 years. I hope you are not childish to deny this fact.

        In my beleif, the only difference is that Ajahn Chah will not reincarnate in a physical relm but you will certainly will. So what is the use of your vision?
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      • No body die in the universe. it is your acceptance. I have not any kind of death and Birth.
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      • "No body die in the universe. it is your acceptance."

        Why do you breath ?
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      • No body breath in the world. it is acceptance.
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      • Then why did you say previously that you are breathing ?
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      • "This is the different between the Ajahn Chah Dhamma and Buddha Dhamma. You know some have to do effort more than SARA SANKALPA LAKSAYAK before see the vision."

        You are saying that when you killed your accepted knowledge the ten fetters are automatically fading away later without effort even if you are throwing parties in the world !

        Vidharshana teachers say that consistant observastion on one's perceptions is the way to get rid of ten fetters.

        How can you be pretty sure that Ajhan Chah's method has not worked?
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      • First I say you have to see it. But I will explain some ways even though it is hard to explain. Once some one comes to sovam palaya; first three fetters are eradicated. Normally we called ‘sakkaya distti’ is accepted personality (personality view) even though is not the right explanation. Some one, who is in the Sovan palaya still apply the knowledge but he/she does not accept the knowledge as the truth .

        Some one who comes to sovan palaya, he/she sees that all the actions including observations are the part of the knowledge. No person here. we cannot say the other fetters are automatically fading away. It is happen as the cause and effects. I f some one has ‘Sakkaya distti, he/she do effort (like observations) to get rid of fetters. But if you eliminate the sakkaya distti, you never do any effort to eliminate the fetters because the fetters are not belong to you. I know you do not agree with me that the observation is the 3rd fetter (silabbatha paramasa). Yes, People do observations before the Sovan Palaya.

        I will reveal this Dhamma in my coming sermons. 
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      • Here you use verb 'see' and say that "eya Indriya Ikmawa Dakeemaki"

        The observation that Vidharshana teachers refer to is "passive observation" or just to feel (know) it when it happens. This passive observation does include the knowing that there is no person insidethe body in reality, this understanding eventually leads to end of self view.

        Therefore your conlusion that Vidharshana method is not working is just a false prejudice without knowing the facts. Even though you have misconception that the vidarshana meditation can't be done without self view, it's just your ignorace.

        What I meant by automatic is your idea that "after you killed your accepted knowledge you can be throwing parties, still 10 fetters will eventually fade away without anyeffort by you".

        Your "cause and effect" is a black box. When you use 'as cause and effect', I am sure you don't know how to explain the thing.
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      • Yes, we need ‘Vidharshana’ to see the truth. But question is “what is the vidharshana”? I have seen the “vidhashana” and see the truth. I have explain ‘Vidharshana’ in my sermon- 06 (/15/08/2010)
        http://www.universalfact.org/Dr.tissa/index.html

        The path to truth (without stayed and without pushed) is hard to explain. I have explain this path in my sermons but hard to see it too. 
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